$0,000s and $0,000's (2024)

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man_on_the_moon

Senior Member

Japanese

  • Jun 24, 2010
  • #1

Hi.

What does $0,000s and $0,000's mean?
Are they the same? Do they mean "thousands of dollars?"

I wonder why four digits "0" is used?

  • SwissPete

    Senior Member

    94044 USA

    Français (CH), AE (California)

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #2

    Do they mean "thousands of dollars?"

    I suspect that they do. But where have you seen this? Can you provide more context?

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    man_on_the_moon

    Senior Member

    Japan

    Japanese

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #3

    Thank you for your response, SwissPete.

    Because of confidentiality, I can't reveal it's source, but google search tells you how it's used. I actually did so to make sure what it really means. After reading some search results, I am not still 100% sure so I asked here.

    http://www.google.co.jp/search?hl=j...q=$0,000s&btnG=検索&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=

    Now WordReference is on top of the search results on google.

    Do you think it means "thousands of dollars?"

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    OzziBoy

    Senior Member

    English - Australian

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #4

    If you can't give the actual context/text around it, could you let us know in what type of a document you saw this? You can always change the name of things to keep confidentiality.

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    man_on_the_moon

    Senior Member

    Japan

    Japanese

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #5

    Thank you for your response, OzziBoy.

    I'm sorry. It's kind of impossible to go into deeper about the context but it's kind of about prize participants can get.

    Changing a question , is $0,000s or $0,000's commonly used or you see it often?

    JulianStuart

    Senior Member

    Sonoma County CA

    English (UK then US)

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #6

    It's not common. I would guess that

    if

    $00s is hundreds of dollars and $000s is thousands the $0,000 would be tens of thousand of dollars....

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    OzziBoy

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English - Australian

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #7

    I agree with Julian here. In financial reports, I often see (,000s) written at the top of a column indicating that you should add "000" to any figure displayed.

    Also, ",000s" is correct. ",000's" is not correct.

    I've never seen it written like this on something describing how much you could win.

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    mplsray

    Senior Member

    Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

    English, USA

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #8

    OzziBoy said:

    Also, ",000s" is correct. ",000's" is not correct.

    This is a matter of style, and some style guides require an apostrophe-s.

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    OzziBoy

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English - Australian

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #9

    mplsray said:

    This is a matter of style, and some style guides require an apostrophe-s.

    Then i guess some style guides are incorrect! $0,000s and $0,000's (3) I'm happy to be correct however if I am indeed wrong.

    's indicates the possessive
    s indicates plural

    1950s, not 1950's
    100s and 1000s. Not 100's and 1000's.

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    mplsray

    Senior Member

    Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

    English, USA

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #11

    OzziBoy said:

    Then i guess some style guides are incorrect! $0,000s and $0,000's (4) I'm happy to be correct however if I am indeed wrong.

    's indicates the possessive
    s indicates plural

    1950s, not 1950's
    100s and 1000s. Not 100's and 1000's.

    Are you happy to be "corrected" if you are wrong?

    Wikipedia says the following in the article "Apostrophe":

    The apostrophe is sometimes used in forming the plural of numbers (for example, 1000's of years); however, as with groups of years, it is unnecessary: there is no possibility of misreading. Most sources are against this usage.

    Note that it refers to "most" but not "all" sources.

    As for modern uses of an apostrophe-s in terms such as "1,000's," here are three books, published since 2000, including tables with "1000's," found via Google Books:

    The Ecology of Transportation: Managing Mobility for the Environment by John Davenport and Julia L. Davenport, 2006.

    Surviving 1,000 Centuries: Can We Do It? by Roger-Maurice Bonnet and Lodewijk Woltjer, 2008.

    Geomorphometry: Concepts, Software, Applications by Tomislav Hengl and Hannes I. Reuter, 2009.

    Evidently, the style guides used by the writers and/or editors of those books allowed such use.

    To say that most style guides call for avoiding an apostrophe in the case of number written in symbols is accurate. To say that using an apostrophe in such cases is flat-out wrong is flat-out wrong.

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    OzziBoy

    Senior Member

    Australia

    English - Australian

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #12

    Haha. I stand corrected. $0,000s and $0,000's (5)

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    iskndarbey

    Senior Member

    Lima, Perú

    US, English

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #13

    man_on_the_moon said:

    Thank you everybody for your responses.

    So, You would think $0,000s could mean "tens of thousands" dollars, NOT "thousands" of dollars, assuming another number (except 0) come before the first "0" in "$0,000s?

    I would strongly advise against using this. It's never used in this context (at least what little context you have given) and people will not easily understand it. What do you mean by "Assuming another number came before the first 0"?

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    mplsray

    Senior Member

    Minneapolis, Minnesota USA

    English, USA

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #15

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    man_on_the_moon

    Senior Member

    Japan

    Japanese

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #16

    iskndarbey said:

    What do you mean by "Assuming another number came before the first 0"?

    Thank you iskandarby for your response.

    I first thought that "$0,000s" means thousand dollars but after reading OzziBoy saying "I agree with Julian here. In financial reports, I often see (,000s) written at the top of a column indicating that you should add "000" to any figure displayed.", I wondered if "$0,000s" means, for example, $30,000" or "$50,000" or whatever adding 1-9 numbers before the first "0", hence, "tens of thousands of dollars" not "thousands of dollars."

    Sorry, it isn't easy to explain what I meant in English...

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    man_on_the_moon

    Senior Member

    Japan

    Japanese

    • Jun 24, 2010
    • #17

    mplsray said:

    I have no idea. Even as headlinese, it doesn't make sense.

    I see. Thank you.

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